that is why people came to this country and that is why people here look for a better future will be like a better future feature their ancestors looked to when they came. so i would say yes, you know, we need control, but we need controls. all kind of interdependencies and self-regulation, what's working, what's not what gets us to the endpoint, which is better may take human lives. it's not gdp, not increase transactions. it's what kind of lives we live. >> host: professor philip auerswald, one of those trees, gm a couple years ago nearly went bankrupt -- to go bankrupt, was built out by the federal government. should it have been held out for to fall?